Did you take part in the Andizhan events?
No, it was probably the work of the Islamic Jihad of Uzbekistan: they pulled out of the IMU. They are even more radical and intransigent. They are mostly young men.
But are events of this type not coordinated, for example, by al-Qaeda?
Al-Qaeda translates as “foundation,” “base”. So we also began with a base, but now everyone is on his own. Information and instructions are issued via the Internet. There was an al-Qaeda camp adjacent to ours in Chechnya, but the two kept entirely separate from each other. We had mainly Uzbeks, Tajiks, and Kyrgyz, while they had Arabs and Europeans, but some recruits occasionally moved from one camp to the other. There was no rigid structure.
For example, Abu Musab al-Zarqawi in Iraq. He is portrayed as a bin Laden representative, but this is not so; he is on his own. We got in touch with him not very long ago, offering to help, but he refused. I met with Zarqawi two years ago. He did not stand out in any special way. At that time, I was higher within our hierarchy.
Are you acquainted with bin Laden?
Would not say acquainted, but I have met him on several occasions. He addressed us in Afghanistan in 2000. He said that he was pleased to see representatives from 56 countries there and that we should unite. Some people proposed a series of attacks in a number of countries, for example, blow up a dam near Tashkent or explode a “dirty bomb”. But he said that “we will have time to do that yet.” He asked whether there were any physicists among us.
Are you saying that al-Qaeda has a “dirty bomb”?
Yes, I think it does . . .
“This is slavery, not to speak one's thought.” ― Euripides, The Phoenician Women
Friday, December 16, 2005
Uzbek Islamist Links to Al Qaeda
Thanks to a mention on New Eurasia.net by Nick, I read this very interesting interview with an Islamist terror cell leader in Uzbekistan in the Moscow News. It discusses Al Qaeda, and the May 2005 Andijan violence: